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Nina's avatar

I agree with your criticism. A camper that didn’t contribute anything of value (not even excellent conversation for example) would not be invited again. However, I disagree with you in equal measure - you’re making the mirror image mistake. People have sex because it feels good and take care of their children and relatives because they love them (as well as more practical and selfish reasons.) Infanticide and literal self sacrifice for one’s kids are BOTH well within normal human behavior depending on the circumstances and culture (AND the individual!). People certainly can and do love others outside their own family - and so will help them even if it hurts themselves! Some don’t seem capable of this, others for only one person while others still have a very strong instinct to help pretty much any human being they come across. This isn’t to slight that MOST people have self interest playing a role in most interactions but that’s not all and not all the time. People living in Nazi occupied territory hiding Jews aren’t acting self interested in any way, risking themselves and their families. And because humans are so diverse and malleable we can steer between the two natural extremes a fair amount - where a solid majority will act in a more selfish or more prosocial way. But ignoring out of existence one of the real extreme instincts will not give us a well functioning society.

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Sang's avatar

The stories are not any less realistic just because they are stories because that's precisely how they are supposed to work and operate in our world, giving rise to value systems that have real currency. But understanding the mechanics is important to know how best to foster this kind of exchange. I agree with the analysis but want to highlight that these stories we tell ourselves are not something less than simply because they are stories.

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