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Joe Litobarski's avatar

Brilliant stuff! I nodded along with a lot of what you said, but I'm afraid I disagree with you about the core of your argument, which I take to be: "To understand such evolutionarily weird behaviours, we should embrace Veblen’s core insight about luxury goods and services: human behaviours that seem odd, irrational, and wasteful are often rooted in social goals."

I have a bunch of disagreements, probably because I find more to agree with in Bataille's writing on waste and excess than Veblen or Mauss:

- All behaviour is weird and wasteful. This is because life is weird and wasteful. Waste does not serve a social function because waste is an end in itself (and, ultimately, what we desire - and the reason we accumulate power in the first place - is to escape and exceed systems of utilitarian logic and the regulation of waste). To say we waste in order to accumulate power doesn't tell me anything if the reason we accumulate that power is in order to waste.

- To prevent or reduce waste is to invite catastrophe, not for functionalist reasons, but rather because excess must be wasted. If excess energy is not wasted through ritualised / formalised sacrifice then it will be wasted through war or violence, and I worry that a functionalist approach to waste carries implicit normative claims aiming to make waste somehow more "efficient". I do see a distinction between catastrophic waste and productive waste, so perhaps this is somewhere our mental models overlap.

- More broadly, I worry that evolutionary explanations for social behaviour are deterministic, simplistic and (ultimately) politically reductive. I really enjoyed David Graeber and David Wengrow's discussion on potlach and waste in "The Dawn of Everything", and I thought they made important points criticising social evolution and emphasising multiplicity, change, and variety within cultures around the world historically.

Still, I hope you'll accept my comment not as criticism, but rather as an attempt to better understand your argument and test it against other ideas. I've subscribed, and I very much look forward to reading more!

Eddie Gunn's avatar

Great post! At first I saw Conspicuous Cognition as a bit too clever. Now I get it, and it explains a lot. I’ve always been about seeking what is true (as much as that is possible), regardless of discomfort.

Your idea of conspicuous cognition is as valid as conspicuous consumption. It’s clear sports cars are about more than transportation. It makes sense it would be the same with ideas.

I’m not a conspicuous consumer, I’m more of a minimalist. Standing out makes me uncomfortable. I guess it’s true with ideas as well.

I’ve always felt the tension between truth-seeking and status-seeking, but I never realized that for some people they are totally unrelated. Some people are just chasing status, like how easily people can shift from NeverTrump to MAGA, or from moderate liberal to progressive activist.

Truth-seeking is collaborative. Status-seeking is zero-sum. I’ve never fully realized we’re not all playing the same game.

A good friend has been telling me about your Substack for a while. I really appreciate what you’re doing.

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