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Mike Hind's avatar

I think that it would be very strange if the format of 24/7 anger, mockery, disdain, flattening and worse didn't leech out into the wider culture. All I have is anecdotes, but they're personallt compelling when you've done as much social media as I once did. That said, it's done us a service by revealing, to those of us who were open to persuasion, that our own sides are as bad as the other. I wouldn't have known (as a lifelong leftist) how blinkered my side was until I saw it for myself.

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With much less cause, as I have not done the research you have done, I agree with you completely that social media is not the underlying driver of any of the problems we are experiencing today, across the whole of the political spectrum. To me, a central point, if not the central point, you note is this: “Media bias is largely demand-driven, not supply-driven).”

So, social media can be a facilitator for transmitting a point of view, but it is not the creator of that view. I hope I will not be too tiresome in quoting again from Arendt, who here is also quoting from someone else, “Propaganda is not ‘the art of instilling an opinion in the masses. Actually it is the art of receiving an opinion from the masses.’”

I readily acknowledge that, in my hands, a little knowledge of what Arendt is discussing is likely a dangerous thing. That said, it struck me over and over in reading your article that people, in desperation for finding a way out of our current fix, are latching on to symptoms—with AOC’s comment appearing to me as an astonishingly extreme example of this—rather than doing the intellectual work required to get underneath the symptoms toward locating the causes (which are multifaceted and very messy).

I want to take a little bit of issue with you about the relative dysfunction of the two parties here in the US, in this respect: the Democratic Party (my party for all my adult life, and still is) is, to my mind, in a complete state of dysfunction right now, utterly unable to manage the simplest of course corrections it absolutely must take to have any chance of regaining power. To that extent, I also question whether your bullet beginning “A better explanation of this “asymmetric polarization” is a good take. Speaking as one who is among that class of over-educated liberal, urban professionals, I am astounded by how easily people of my ilk can be gulled into believing the most preposterous, science-denialist tripe. As one commenter on Substack I have found quite sound recently observed:

“It’s hard for me to tell if the Democratic Party is really doubling down on fringe trans causes or just running on fumes with them, having difficulty figuring out what to do with this rotten hot potato. It hasn’t quite dawned on many Democratic elites that this is really the motherload of wedge issues and would be the gift to Trump’s ilk that keeps on giving if a Democratic leader doesn’t step up and turn the ship around in 2028. That figure hasn’t appeared yet, as Rahm Emanuel has too much baggage, too little charisma, and too little to offer the Democratic base in other areas to get the job done. But my sense is that we’ll need to figure out who can turn the ship around soon because the writing’s on the wall that this particular set of issues will likely drag the party down for the rest of its existence if it doesn’t course-correct.”

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